tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post2290624554686770860..comments2024-03-06T02:46:19.929+00:00Comments on Translation Tribulations: Curiouser and curiouserKevin Lossnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-50334845961952941282009-09-20T23:24:29.213+01:002009-09-20T23:24:29.213+01:00Wow. What's happening to Proz is simply fascin...Wow. What's happening to Proz is simply fascinating. Thanks for making this public... I hardly go nowadays. I think it's clear why not...<br />FionaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-20156024476990072242009-09-18T17:46:28.531+01:002009-09-18T17:46:28.531+01:00@Kevin: I assume this friend could be A.... A pit...@Kevin: I assume this friend could be A.... A pity you don't read French but I can give you the details (write to office at krauland dot biz or to kraulandconsulting at me dot com. I can also explain the whereabouts in publi (ie on this blog) if you wish.Laurent Kraulandhttp://www.krauland.biznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-47275689690668849562009-09-18T15:48:32.835+01:002009-09-18T15:48:32.835+01:00@Laurent: I missed something. A friend e-mailed me...@Laurent: I missed something. A friend e-mailed me last night to say you were "back", but I didn't know you were gone. What happened?Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-29379827553230779442009-09-18T15:40:12.209+01:002009-09-18T15:40:12.209+01:00FWIW, I have been "reinstalled" in my ri...FWIW, I have been "reinstalled" in my rights as a paying member upon my request. I'd like to know which answer will be given to Victor's support request and will not hesitate to send similar ones should the occasion arise :)Laurent Kraulandhttp://www.krauland.biznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-25589609135137210272009-09-18T11:32:06.991+01:002009-09-18T11:32:06.991+01:00@Victor: Good for you, I'd love to hear the re...@Victor: Good for you, I'd love to hear the response. A simple forum search for "rule" yields plenty of other postings about site rule clarifications, none of which got closed.Michelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-45412937403624397892009-09-18T09:20:41.241+01:002009-09-18T09:20:41.241+01:00FWIW, I have just submitted a "Support ticket...FWIW, I have just submitted a "Support ticket" with some of my misgivings about the develompents at ProZ.<br />I wonder whether I will get any meaningful reply.Victorhttp://www.dewsbery.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-71526193668039902232009-09-18T03:38:39.796+01:002009-09-18T03:38:39.796+01:00By the way, Kevin, they definitely don´t need any ...By the way, Kevin, they definitely don´t need any smart guys like you being at theirs, believe me. What they need are ever more innocent/naive users/members who provide their data for sale or for money-making per click.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15110184696280800224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-35719662229115394552009-09-17T23:58:28.592+01:002009-09-17T23:58:28.592+01:00Hi Kevin,
It is probably Jared´s intention to hav...Hi Kevin,<br /><br />It is probably Jared´s intention to have less traffic at ProZ fora. The postings of those watchdogs are enough to maintain those fora "alive." The rest of us translators makes only trouble and hard work for the staff. They don´t need heavy traffic. They make money otherwise.<br /><br />- SylviaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15110184696280800224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-75849560021220598242009-09-17T18:57:31.749+01:002009-09-17T18:57:31.749+01:00@Laurent: Everything is time-sorted. Jared's p...@Laurent: Everything is time-sorted. Jared's post was at 18:06 (my time). I just scanned down the recent post list and noticed the gap.<br /><br />These days things don't move off the page that quickly. A year ago a thread without additions would quickly get buried two or three pages back in less than a day, because the forum discussions were so active. Now it reminds me a bit of a ghost town. I suppose we should post a note somewhere requesting the last member to leave to turn out the lights :-)Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-33883421067367300502009-09-17T18:51:19.094+01:002009-09-17T18:51:19.094+01:00@Kevin: I noticed that it was hard to find (hehe!)...@Kevin: I noticed that it was hard to find (hehe!) and I thought it would have gone down in the list as a result of huge amounts of new posts in other topics... Thanks for letting me know about this "Beerdigung" feature I was unaware of :-OLaurent Kraulandhttp://www.krauland.biznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-12189129460048112542009-09-17T18:20:20.397+01:002009-09-17T18:20:20.397+01:00@Laurent: you forgot to note that the thread has a...@Laurent: you forgot to note that the thread has also neen removed from the "Most Recent Posts" page. It's an obvious attempt to bury the whole matter. I particularly liked the lame citation of yet another "rule" with the comment by Jared that <i>"clarification regarding site rules or rules enforcement actions should also be directed through the support system"</i>. Now if one does that the answers are not available for the benefit of others and a higher level of "crime" can most likely be expected. How terribly unproductive.<br /><br />I really do get the impression lately that some ProZ staff and mods have reverted to kindergarten.Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-37832840245055907552009-09-17T17:58:44.948+01:002009-09-17T17:58:44.948+01:00@Michele: done, the thread has been locked by JT o...@Michele: done, the thread has been locked by JT on 06:06 PM CEDT.Laurent Kraulandhttp://www.krauland.biznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-91938262910638817462009-09-17T17:25:13.359+01:002009-09-17T17:25:13.359+01:00@Michele: Very likely you're right. But at sev...@Michele: Very likely you're right. But at several levels I think the response to foolishness like this was summarized well by Erich Kästner:<br /><br /><i>Ja, die Bösen und Beschränkten sind die Meisten und die Stärkern aber spiel nicht den Gekränkten. Bleib am Leben, sie zu ärgern!</i><br /><br />Actually, I would take issue with the part about them being "stronger". To me they are intellectually and ethically weak, and their strength in other areas has strict limits.Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-78737142592551242962009-09-17T17:04:52.260+01:002009-09-17T17:04:52.260+01:00Re: http://www.proz.com/forum/site_forums/145657-c...Re: http://www.proz.com/forum/site_forums/145657-clarification_on_site_rule_4_offensive_language_is_not_permitted.html<br /><br />I'd be willing to bet that that topic will be censored or closed within the next 8 hours.Michelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-26879427906756939362009-09-17T16:25:48.913+01:002009-09-17T16:25:48.913+01:00http://www.proz.com/forum/site_forums/145657-clari...http://www.proz.com/forum/site_forums/145657-clarification_on_site_rule_4_offensive_language_is_not_permitted.htmlLaurent Kraulandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-76319456048917954522009-09-17T12:55:25.465+01:002009-09-17T12:55:25.465+01:00@Chris:
I saw you thinking a prohibited thought.
L...@Chris:<br />I saw you thinking a prohibited thought.<br />Listen for the knock on the door.<br /><br />And as for Kevin ... ;-} ;-} ;-}<br /><br />(BTW: my "membership renewal review" back in the summer drew a negative conclusion).Victorhttp://www.dewsbery.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-57065911636773475932009-09-17T09:55:26.856+01:002009-09-17T09:55:26.856+01:00"The ProZ censors are at it again, and to be ..."<i>The ProZ censors are at it again, and to be quite honest, I can't see what for.</i>"<br /><br />In the days of yore, perceived 'errors of judgement' were pointed out <b>in public</b>, and served as a useful reminder about Site RuleZ (as a <b>paying customer</b> of ProZ, I prefer to view the latter as 'guidelines').<br /><br />In the meantime however, considered, constructive and polite site moderation seems to have leant more and more in the direction of 'policing' and this by those whose qualification to intervene seems questionable at best.<br /><br />A prime example of an embarrassing site-level cock-up is to be seen here: http://xrl.us/bfmeuv.<br /><br />Digging deeper into the entertaining content of that forum, we discover that it contains a link to the Contest RuleZ, which state: " Speculation on entries is not allowed. It is against the rules to <b>speculate</b> as to who may have submitted a given entry."<br /><br />Thought police?<br /><br />I wondered what was meant by 'speculate' in this context. How do they intend to gain knowledge of my 'speculation'? The words spectograph and speculum sprang to mind but nervous - indeed horrified - I refrained from giving the matter further consideration. <br /><br />My membership renewal is presently under review, as is that of others.Chris Irwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-37571107635418263102009-09-16T21:32:46.728+01:002009-09-16T21:32:46.728+01:00Curiouser and curiouser but not unpredictable. Thi...Curiouser and curiouser but not unpredictable. This is the direction in which ProZ has been moving for years. Unfortunately, because the posts are hidden for ridiculous reasons, many people aren't aware of this or simply don't care. And many people that used to add so much to the site are no longer active members/users/whatever. The censorship is actually the reason I canceled my membership before it expired. I'm still a user because I find the forums extremely useful. I honestly don't think this course will change.Claudia Alvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01732495728371630881noreply@blogger.com