tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post4601580993136653177..comments2024-03-06T02:46:19.929+00:00Comments on Translation Tribulations: IAPTI Brings the Translation Revolution to Spain on September 28-30, 2018!Kevin Lossnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-2588886146217495062018-09-02T16:33:52.801+01:002018-09-02T16:33:52.801+01:00That was an argument I stayed out of, because I ha...That was an argument I stayed out of, because I have great respect for those on both sides of it, and I could not legitimately form an opinion on some of the issues without seeing the evidence. While I was in Buenos Aires last year I did in fact see the original documents from the long, nightmarish, tangled trail of paperwork for the much-delayed official recognition of the organization in Argentina. As implausible as it may sound, the side which remains in the organization was actually telling the truth, and the mess on the part of the government was even bigger than I saw in the arguments at the time those were current. I hope that at some point both sides can cool off and reconcile, because based on my current state of knowledge, I would say that many of the points are in fact resolved in a documented manner and the remaining ones can be worked out by people of good will who continue to share many goals in common for the defense of professionals and end clients.Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-83870458010417476672018-09-02T16:26:09.378+01:002018-09-02T16:26:09.378+01:00Hey Renato, sorry it took so long to find and publ...Hey Renato, sorry it took so long to find and publish your comment. As I just noted elsewhere, I think I went overboard with my spam filters or something, or the Google response to GDPR killed my comment notifications. (I recently got am e-mail from Google asking if I wanted to continue receiving notices for my own blogs, which I found very strange.)<br /><br />Kirti is fun to talk to; I'll never forget a fun evening I had years ago messaging with him about music. As I remember it, I mentioned several genres I disliked and he pulled songs from each genre out of his magic hat that made me re-think that. It was a delightful, mind-opening experience.<br /><br />I remember the "My dinner with Andre"... uh, Renato... post you mentioned. It was a good one. You are lucky to have met Miguel; I had looked forward to doing so for years, and mere days before we were supposed to get together for a debate on MpT in Warsaw I heard the news that his mother had just brought his ashes back to Venezuela. A very hard memory of a man whose voice is sorely missed.<br /><br />I think you are mistaken with regard to IAPTI and SDL. SDL is - as far as I recall - consistently rejected as a sponsor because of the LSP side of their business. Tool providers such as Wordfast or Kilgray/memoQ are accepted because they do not have a component of their business which directly competes with individuals who provide services. I think the organization is trying to avoid the sort of crippling conflicts of interest one find, for example with the ATA.<br /><br />You or anyone else are always welcome to attend these events as individuals for whatever purpose, and I think that would be a good thing and an opportunity for people from all sides of some important questions (like this new decision from the California Supreme Court) to exchange views.Kevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-64256383686417124472018-07-02T02:21:37.262+01:002018-07-02T02:21:37.262+01:00Thanks, Kevin, for reminding me of the great blog ...Thanks, Kevin, for reminding me of the great blog by the late Miguel Llorens. I used to be a frequent target of his comments, but it was mostly due to the fact that we didn't know each other. In fact, once we had the chance to meet in person, our views of each other changed a little. The post that you link to refers to an online conference that Proz organized. I haven't talked to Kirti in a few years and I guess I should correct that, because he is a great thinker and his blog (http://kv-emptypages.blogspot.com/) is one of the best long form forums in the language services industry.<br /><br />But I would urge you to re-read the post "My dinner with Renato" by the same Miguel Llorens (http://traductor-financiero.blogspot.com/2012/05/my-dinner-with-renato.html), which is a lot more interesting and well informed than the one that you quote.<br /><br />As for IAPTI, I wish them luck and success, irrespective of their incongruent behavior. When I was responsible for vendor management at a very big Sausage Purveyor, as you call them, I sought to sponsor your event and even exhibit at it. Large translation companies are always looking for the best professionals in the market for all specialties, and contrary to what you state, are willing to pay premium prices for premium services. Unfortunately we were rejected, unlike SDL, which was welcome with open arms because they sell technology (I know, fuzzy matches are fair, post-editing is unfair, I know).<br /><br />I will check my calendar and if there are no conflicts, I might even accept your invitation and show up in Valencia. Maybe I can find good translators for my book.Renato Beninattohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154049627184805123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-45427120961985817922018-07-01T22:37:51.171+01:002018-07-01T22:37:51.171+01:00Actually on closer reading I would bet with great ...Actually on closer reading I would bet with great certainty that the comment was made by DW himselfKirti Vasheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795076802721564830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-76631875366365020612018-07-01T22:30:38.542+01:002018-07-01T22:30:38.542+01:00I wonder who that Tom dude he refers to that was t...I wonder who that Tom dude he refers to that was that was allegedly me in disguise? I think might have been Tom in Bangkok? I always said what I thought on Miguel's blog, he did not ever censor comments like some did even if he disagreed with the opinion.Kirti Vasheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795076802721564830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-80133628294606243022018-07-01T21:51:16.748+01:002018-07-01T21:51:16.748+01:00The more things change, the more they remain the s...The more things change, the more they remain the same :-) http://traductor-financiero.blogspot.com/2011/09/proz-taus-great-translation-debate-not.htmlKevin Lossnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727800526216764023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-62324916423840854982018-06-30T22:32:52.320+01:002018-06-30T22:32:52.320+01:00Based on my own interactions with some of the IAPT...Based on my own interactions with some of the IAPTI leadership, some time ago, I can hardly fault Renato for what he may have said. In fact, the resignation of several members of the Ethics Committee might be a clue that things were not all quite rosy and clean and wonderful at camp IAPTI See: Why we are resigning from IAPTI https://anmerkungen-des-uebersetzers.com/2016/11/01/resigning-iapti/Kirti Vasheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795076802721564830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-85757206438844138742018-06-30T00:10:38.088+01:002018-06-30T00:10:38.088+01:00Oh yeah, I had forgotten about those IATIP taliban...Oh yeah, I had forgotten about those IATIP taliban. I didn't call them taliban for the reasons that you state, but for their willfully and egregiously uninformed positions regarding even the most basic of real-world economic principles. <br /><br />I never thought they would recover from the mass resignation of their Ethics Committee (https://anmerkungen-des-uebersetzers.com/2016/11/01/resigning-iapti/), but if that is case, congratulations!<br /><br />Let me know if you need a good keynote speaker for 2019.<br /><br />Renato Beninatto<br /><br />Renato Beninattohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154049627184805123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20155610.post-44963721238804425372018-06-29T23:24:42.906+01:002018-06-29T23:24:42.906+01:00I think the questionable element that was seen as ...I think the questionable element that was seen as Taliban-like came from some in the leadership whose opinion, however uninformed or unfounded, ruled over rationality. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com